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Cammus C5 in IRACING Nürburgring! Full Race!
Today we torture test the Cammus C5 on the Prosimu Motion Rig for an official race around Nurburgring in GT3!
Coupon code: "rtamotorsports" for 5% OFF!
affiliate link:cammusracing.com/?ref=eijgfgsp
Discord: discord.gg/Euebn6K
visit us on Instagram @ Crashhawkra
Visit us on Twitch @CrashHawkGaming
Review of Wheel used Fanatec V2.5
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Prosimu T1000 2DOF motion rig review!
ua-cam.com/video/doLcSGkE0Lk/v-deo.html
XX EVO 30 unboxing and impressions.
ua-cam.com/video/LZ62FGEd7lA/v-deo.html
How to clean alcantara below!
ua-cam.com/video/xUvU5tZzpHU/v-deo.html
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You can check out the products featured in the video here! And you would be helping the channel out too!!
Samsung chg90 49 inch 32:9 monitor:
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Fanatec ClubSport Shifter SQ v1.5 Stand-alone
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Fanatec ClubSport Racing Wheel BMW
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Fanatec ClubSport Handbrake v1.5 Stand-alone
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Never tried it myself but seems like possibly an interesting alternative and a bit cheaper hmm
VIOTEK SUW49C 49-Inch Super Ultrawide
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My Computer:
Asus Tuff X570 pro Mobo, Ryzen5900x, Zotac 3090 850 watt PSU;Samsung 500Gb SSD; Patriot 250gb SSD; WD 3 TB HD; 4 120 mm CASE FANS; 2 120 mm CASE FANS; PCI Express USB hub; PCI Express dual band wifi adapter; Sound blaster mono usb sound card (simvibe)
RIG specs:
Prosimu 3 DOF motion cockpit
Simxperience Accuforce v2 Fanatec BMW wheel, Heusinkveld Sprint pedals, v1.5 shifter, and hand brake, reverb g2
#motionrig
#simracing
#vr
#Oculus
#vive
#iracing
#reverbg2
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Відео

Why Everyone is Talking About Cammus C5! First Impressions Test Drive. #cammus
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Coupon code: "rtamotorsports" Affiliate link:cammusracing.com/?ref=eijgfgsp Giveaway link: link:cammusracing.com/?ref=zfumoxcz Feel free to hang out, ask questions and discuss all things car, tech, and channel related! Discord: discord.gg/Euebn6K visit us on Instagram @ Crashhawkra Visit us on Twitch @CrashHawkGaming Review of Wheel used Fanatec V2.5 ua-cam.com/video/8MHXmhLvsVA/v-deo.html Pros...
Cammus CP5 Pedals Unboxing! The best budget pedals? #cammus
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Today we unbox and assemble the rest of the Cammus C5 Bundle! the CS5 Table mount and the CP5 Pedals! Cammus C5 Unboxing : ua-cam.com/video/fulQ-gdc8XU/v-deo.htmlsi=IQPTMzlNfQ_DkkuM Coupon code: "rtamotorsports" Affiliate link:cammusracing.com/?ref=eijgfgsp Giveaway link: link:cammusracing.com/?ref=zfumoxcz Discord: discord.gg/Euebn6K visit us on Instagram @ Crashhawkra Visit us on Twitch @Cras...
CAMMUS C5 UNBOXING The Direct Drive wheel Budget KING? #cammus
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Today we unbox the Cammus C5 direct drive wheel! This new design takes a totally different approach to direct drive. Also the price is one we have never seen before for a direct drive wheel. Very excited to see, is this the new budget king? Coupon code: "rtamotorsports" Affiliate link:cammusracing.com/?ref=eijgfgsp Giveaway link: link:cammusracing.com/?ref=zfumoxcz Feel free to hang out, ask qu...
Sim Lab XB-1 Handbrake test with EA WRC!
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Feel free to hang out, ask questions and discuss all things car, tech, and channel related! Discord: discord.gg/Euebn6K visit us on Instagram @ Crashhawkra Visit us on Twitch @CrashHawkGaming Review of Wheel used Fanatec V2.5 ua-cam.com/video/8MHXmhLvsVA/v-deo.html Prosimu T1000 2DOF motion rig review! ua-cam.com/video/doLcSGkE0Lk/v-deo.html XX EVO 30 unboxing and impressions. ua-cam.com/video/...
Assetto Corsa Competizione: 24h Nurburgring DLC First Test!
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Feel free to hang out, ask questions and discuss all things car, tech, and channel related! Discord: discord.gg/Euebn6K visit us on Instagram @ Crashhawkra Visit us on Twitch @CrashHawkGaming Review of Wheel used Fanatec V2.5 ua-cam.com/video/8MHXmhLvsVA/v-deo.html Prosimu T1000 2DOF motion rig review! ua-cam.com/video/doLcSGkE0Lk/v-deo.html XX EVO 30 unboxing and impressions. ua-cam.com/video/...
SIM LAB XB1 Handbrake Unboxing and first look!
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Today we received the gorgeous SimLab XB1 Handbrake and will unbox it to take our first look at this unit. Discord: discord.gg/Euebn6K visit us on Instagram @ Crashhawkra Visit us on Twitch @CrashHawkGaming Review of Wheel used Fanatec V2.5 ua-cam.com/video/8MHXmhLvsVA/v-deo.html Prosimu T1000 2DOF motion rig review! ua-cam.com/video/doLcSGkE0Lk/v-deo.html XX EVO 30 unboxing and impressions. ua...
POV IRacing in the RAIN!!
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Discord: discord.gg/Euebn6K visit us on Instagram @ Crashhawkra Visit us on Twitch @CrashHawkGaming Review of Wheel used Fanatec V2.5 ua-cam.com/video/8MHXmhLvsVA/v-deo.html Prosimu T1000 2DOF motion rig review! ua-cam.com/video/doLcSGkE0Lk/v-deo.html XX EVO 30 unboxing and impressions. ua-cam.com/video/LZ62FGEd7lA/v-deo.html How to clean alcantara below! ua-cam.com/video/xUvU5tZzpHU/v-deo.html...
Riding The Float Life Onewheel GT 5" MTE Hub!! ABSOLUTE TRAIL BEAST
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Riding The Float Life Onewheel GT 5" MTE Hub!! ABSOLUTE TRAIL BEAST
RIDING THE ONEWHEEL GT S SERIES FOR THE FIRST TIME!!
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RIDING THE ONEWHEEL GT S SERIES FOR THE FIRST TIME!!
Unboxing the Meta Quest 3 and Elite Head Strap: Get Ready!
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Unboxing the Meta Quest 3 and Elite Head Strap: Get Ready!
I TRIED THE QUEST 3 AND SO CAN YOU! INITIAL IMPRESSIONS
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I TRIED THE QUEST 3 AND SO CAN YOU! INITIAL IMPRESSIONS
Testing Ryzen 5900X VS 5800X3D In IRACING
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Testing Ryzen 5900X VS 5800X3D In IRACING
The Ultimate Upgrade: Unleashing the Power of The Float Life's WTF Rails on My ONEWHEEL GT
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The Ultimate Upgrade: Unleashing the Power of The Float Life's WTF Rails on My ONEWHEEL GT
Where have I been?! Channel update!
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Where have I been?! Channel update!
Don't Forget Dirt Rally 2.0, My favorite location and car combo!!
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Don't Forget Dirt Rally 2.0, My favorite location and car combo!!
NEXT LEVEL ELITE QUAD MONITOR STAND FOR SIMULATORS!
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NEXT LEVEL ELITE QUAD MONITOR STAND FOR SIMULATORS!
Can I Bench-press using Meta Quest Pro Passthrough?
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Can I Bench-press using Meta Quest Pro Passthrough?
META QUEST PRO SIMRACING! UNBOXING AND FIRST IMPRESSIONS
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META QUEST PRO SIMRACING! UNBOXING AND FIRST IMPRESSIONS
RTX 4090 vs 3090 Sim Racing and VR Benchmarks!
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RTX 4090 vs 3090 Sim Racing and VR Benchmarks!
ZOTAC RTX 4090 TRINITY UNBOXING & FIRST LOOK!
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ZOTAC RTX 4090 TRINITY UNBOXING & FIRST LOOK!
My Onewheel GT, ZL1 Themed! w/ Tech-Rails carbon fiber products!
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My Onewheel GT, ZL1 Themed! w/ Tech-Rails carbon fiber products!
THE TFL ENDURO The BEST ONEWHEEL GT TIRE?!
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THE TFL ENDURO The BEST ONEWHEEL GT TIRE?!
OPENXR IN IRACING?? Instantly better FPS on Hp Reverb G2
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OPENXR IN IRACING?? Instantly better FPS on Hp Reverb G2
BIGGEST UNBOXING YET THE PROSIMU T1000AL!!!!
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BIGGEST UNBOXING YET THE PROSIMU T1000AL!!!!
Breaking down my Prosimu Motion Rig Making way for the NEW RIG!
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Breaking down my Prosimu Motion Rig Making way for the NEW RIG!
BIG NEWS: New Motion cockpit, New Wheel, Testing VR Hand Tracking!!
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BIG NEWS: New Motion cockpit, New Wheel, Testing VR Hand Tracking!!
One Year with ONEWHEEL review: EXHILARATING MEDITATION
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One Year with ONEWHEEL review: EXHILARATING MEDITATION
Onewheel GT Vs XR Headlight Comparison
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Onewheel GT Vs XR Headlight Comparison
Onewheel GT First Ride Review
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Onewheel GT First Ride Review

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @omardarwish2728
    @omardarwish2728 8 годин тому

    Send it to mee plzzzzzz

  • @PidorriAirsoftnaGringaEUA
    @PidorriAirsoftnaGringaEUA День тому

    Really nice setup man. I have exactly the same monitors, what are the angle you are using on them? Tks

  • @Hbrady22
    @Hbrady22 3 дні тому

    Hey man thanks for the video! Do you think if the old stand fit your rig you would've kept it? In other words is it worth buying? How's the adjustability of the screens?

  • @Am5tel
    @Am5tel 7 днів тому

    Anyone have an opinion on Owl Lifters vs Onewheels FST Footpad system?

  • @CaptainNetzkrank
    @CaptainNetzkrank 9 днів тому

    Then remove your "nice little silicon cover" you have on it. So that it can handle it's heat circulation again.

  • @lookmanseedat
    @lookmanseedat 10 днів тому

    What ram did u use?

  • @micofok730
    @micofok730 14 днів тому

    How easy is it to align the triple monitor with those stock vesa mount? Im using them with LG monitors like you

    • @RTAMOTORSPORTS
      @RTAMOTORSPORTS 14 днів тому

      @@micofok730 honestly took me a few hours but wasn't bad, just took measurements a few times and made some adjustments.

    • @micofok730
      @micofok730 14 днів тому

      @@RTAMOTORSPORTS ok that's not too bad. Thanks for replying. I guess with the bezel free kit, you don't have to line them up that perfectly. Those adjustable vesa mounts costs alot so not sure if they're needed

    • @RTAMOTORSPORTS
      @RTAMOTORSPORTS 14 днів тому

      @@micofok730 Yes and no honestly with the bezel-free kit you do want the monitors lined up so you don't have any distortion but it's really easy to do and you don't necessarily need adjustable Vesa mounts.

  • @noahw3630
    @noahw3630 15 днів тому

    8:42 is when he shows you how to connect wirelessly

  • @lifeofasimrigmestizo6910
    @lifeofasimrigmestizo6910 16 днів тому

    Indeed

  • @grandmasasharivera472
    @grandmasasharivera472 Місяць тому

  • @Shoniforce
    @Shoniforce Місяць тому

    looks like a lot of fun!

  • @jrpadilla899
    @jrpadilla899 Місяць тому

    Which sim racing stand are you using for this monitors

    • @RTAMOTORSPORTS
      @RTAMOTORSPORTS Місяць тому

      Next level elite stand is what I'm now using

  • @banjoqc
    @banjoqc Місяць тому

    5600x + 3070 right now single screen 32’’ 2k 165hz… upgrading to triple 32’s 2k next week so i have a 5800x3d (400$) and 5900x (350$) here locally, ill take the 5900x i guess and put the 50$ elsewhere haha! Also upgrading to a 3080

  • @vtclllll
    @vtclllll Місяць тому

    32 or 43 ?

  • @ByTheDrogo
    @ByTheDrogo Місяць тому

    what are the mount the use for the lighting and the streamcam ???

    • @RTAMOTORSPORTS
      @RTAMOTORSPORTS 28 днів тому

      Just using clamp style adjustable camera mounts

  • @gaming-masters-news
    @gaming-masters-news 2 місяці тому

    WoW, Its Great Job You Did, For GCC Gamers Where to Buy Zotac Gaming GeForce RTX 4090 Trinity Graphics Card in Dubai, UAE ?

    • @RTAMOTORSPORTS
      @RTAMOTORSPORTS 2 місяці тому

      Thank you, I bought my GPU from Zotac on their website when the card was released. Thanks for watching!

  • @juliusperseus8612
    @juliusperseus8612 2 місяці тому

    Which game is this ?

  • @CarsandCoffeys
    @CarsandCoffeys 2 місяці тому

    Nice job!!!

  • @CarsandCoffeys
    @CarsandCoffeys 2 місяці тому

    Watch out for the ghost cars!!

    • @RTAMOTORSPORTS
      @RTAMOTORSPORTS 2 місяці тому

      I ain't scared of no ghost 👻😂

    • @CarsandCoffeys
      @CarsandCoffeys 2 місяці тому

      @@RTAMOTORSPORTS But I am!! 🤣😂

  • @Tchekzilku
    @Tchekzilku 2 місяці тому

    It's like having a PS2 image right infront of your eyes

  • @YeOleBaz
    @YeOleBaz 2 місяці тому

    GZ dude!

  • @grandmasasharivera472
    @grandmasasharivera472 2 місяці тому

    ❤ mamas in the house

  • @Bands247
    @Bands247 2 місяці тому

    What motion platform are you using?

    • @RTAMOTORSPORTS
      @RTAMOTORSPORTS 2 місяці тому

      ProSIMU T1000 AL 3dof

    • @Bands247
      @Bands247 2 місяці тому

      @@RTAMOTORSPORTS damn bro I’m jealous

    • @RTAMOTORSPORTS
      @RTAMOTORSPORTS 2 місяці тому

      Don't be, their rigs are very inexpensive in the world of motion rigs. And they sell them without motion and you can add on as you go. I started with the base rig and slowly saved up. I think the 2DOF steel rig is $3999 which most rigs would be 8K+ then you can add the traction loss later.

    • @Bands247
      @Bands247 2 місяці тому

      @@RTAMOTORSPORTS i just bought my first rig. ASR 3 with sim magic DD and simson pedals. Samsung g3 for monitor. I tjink motion is out of the question for me for now at least.

    • @RTAMOTORSPORTS
      @RTAMOTORSPORTS 2 місяці тому

      WOW! That's a beautiful set-up! (I'm jealous of your monitor!)And like my current rig is aluminum profile. Just wait and save and you can use that rig for many of the dbox style motion setups out there!

  • @CarsandCoffeys
    @CarsandCoffeys 2 місяці тому

    Sketchy!! 😂😂

  • @UlyssesSGrant-lg8lh
    @UlyssesSGrant-lg8lh 2 місяці тому

    Is that motion rig

  • @Giant356
    @Giant356 2 місяці тому

    Was your steering wheel broken or was your actual tire damaged?

  • @yovanilozano593
    @yovanilozano593 2 місяці тому

    How did you connect to a pc

    • @RTAMOTORSPORTS
      @RTAMOTORSPORTS 2 місяці тому

      USB and download the legacy Logitech software for the Logitech dfgt.

  • @ineedaname7064
    @ineedaname7064 2 місяці тому

    its actully about 7-9nm peak, 5nm is only holding

  • @yankeegooner4112
    @yankeegooner4112 2 місяці тому

    Would you happen to know how to update the firmware for the CR-5 Pro? Mine stopped working after a month, I downloaded the latest version of sim hub, but its still not working.

    • @RTAMOTORSPORTS
      @RTAMOTORSPORTS 2 місяці тому

      Mine works still, I would ensure nothing disconnected inside, do you still see it in devices menus?

    • @yankeegooner4112
      @yankeegooner4112 2 місяці тому

      @@RTAMOTORSPORTS Nope, it won't show up in devices. I contacted the seller and he's going to fix it.

  • @reviewforthetube6485
    @reviewforthetube6485 2 місяці тому

    First time i brought up cammus people yelled at me on reddit snd facebook saying they are scammers and stuff. Im lime wait what? Are people just hating to hate? Yet another brand they just dont want to like? I dont get it lol I think for the price and anybody wantong to come to dd this is a fantastic option. I will say prederence is crazy on wheels and people need to take that into account. Like I dont get why people want want to feel the vibrations? But some dont. Also aint no way this is 5nm its more like 10nm it makes no sense why they rated it 5nm. Becuase it would also clip easier and doesnt.

    • @albertmas3752
      @albertmas3752 3 години тому

      It's 5 N/m constant but peake up to 7 N/m. The reason it feels much more powerful is simply physics. Common wheels have a base, that base transfers force to an axle which later transfers force to the wheel. On each step an amount of force is lost. The C5 doesn't have a base+axle+wheel, the wheel itself is the base so there is no force loss meaning that 5 N/m ARE 5 N/m (and not counting its peaks up to 7 N/m). So simplifying: it's not that this wheel feels stronger, it's that the rest are actually weaker than advertised. The same way a car can have 100hp in its engine but the real force the wheels get can lower down to 90hp

  • @Coyote.five.0
    @Coyote.five.0 2 місяці тому

    most if not all people don't notice the change from 90hz to 120hz but i have sensitive eye sight anything below 120hz and eye strain is unbearable for me after just 1 or 2 hours if i play at 90hz when i play at 120 i get eye strain even less i can play for 3 or 4 hours straight no problems with max brightness playing gta 5 and asseto corsa for hours non stop without a single problem

  • @Manuel-xi4ju
    @Manuel-xi4ju 2 місяці тому

    Nice vid! (and nice watch you have there man :D)

    • @RTAMOTORSPORTS
      @RTAMOTORSPORTS 2 місяці тому

      Thank you if you don't mind def check out some of my newer content.

  • @dav3nator
    @dav3nator 2 місяці тому

    I just purchased the CR-5 Pro today. Your review played a part in that decision. Thanks.

    • @brandonanderson2443
      @brandonanderson2443 2 дні тому

      I just ordered the cr5 pro as well. How do you like it?

    • @dav3nator
      @dav3nator 2 дні тому

      @@brandonanderson2443 I really like it. I only wish the bracket was a bit taller. I use an R330 and DD+ and part of the dash is blocked by the wheel. But still works good overall.

  • @megcryan9442
    @megcryan9442 2 місяці тому

    😂😂😂

  • @lifeofasimrigmestizo6910
    @lifeofasimrigmestizo6910 3 місяці тому

    I also own the Accuforce and it is a solid wheelbase with great software. This wheelbase looks great for the norm sim racer that wants the strength and not all the extra gadgets. Great review my friend.

  • @agent-zen9722
    @agent-zen9722 3 місяці тому

    🥰🥰🥰👍👍👍

  • @hamzterix
    @hamzterix 3 місяці тому

    If you don't mind the warehouse scrubbers steering wheel design, this a great choice TBH.

  • @BobcatVr-dv2xz
    @BobcatVr-dv2xz 3 місяці тому

    I can’t find it

  • @forbiddenera
    @forbiddenera 3 місяці тому

    UGH why can't NVSurround do this by itself?! and/or why don't all sim games support native multi-mon?

  • @antjones2281
    @antjones2281 3 місяці тому

    Funny thing is , its nit really a sale, their site has had those "sale prices" since launch nearly two years now.

    • @RTAMOTORSPORTS
      @RTAMOTORSPORTS 3 місяці тому

      Oh wow I had no idea, thanks for letting me know for the review!

    • @antjones2281
      @antjones2281 3 місяці тому

      @@RTAMOTORSPORTS yeah, it's a bit of a sneaky tactic, I suppose it leaves the door open for them to raise the price later, or it allows us to get the Rick bottom pricing without the product appearing suspiciously cheap.

    • @CarsandCoffeys
      @CarsandCoffeys 3 місяці тому

      Another great video! I look forward to seeing the review videos! I can't help but think the comment about animals eating cords was directed at our cat Kolohe! 😅 He has destroyed a couple hundred dollars of PC and sim racing equipment by eating cords!

  • @DanDiMaggio
    @DanDiMaggio 3 місяці тому

    Good stuff Crash! I have no clue how they decide what color to send either lol. I've seen yellow, green & orange so far. Also I think you're gonna be pretty surprised at the power. I pulled mine off the rig temporarily. I was having some frame drops in FH5 with the C5 and I was trying to unlock the Terminator Cobra before time ran out. Not sure if you play FH5 but if you do let me know if your gpu drops to 50% as soon as ffb kicks in on the C5.

    • @RTAMOTORSPORTS
      @RTAMOTORSPORTS 3 місяці тому

      Thank you Dan! I cannot wait to feel what this when drives like. I have not jumped into FH5 but I definitely can, what's your CPU and GPU? I'm currently on a 5800x3d and 4090 but I'll report back what happens!

    • @DanDiMaggio
      @DanDiMaggio 3 місяці тому

      @@RTAMOTORSPORTS 7700k & 4070ti. I did some digging and it seems it's something to do with the way FH uses older ffb technology and some newer DD's have issues. I tested Moza, Fanatec & TM DD's too and the C5 was the only one with the fps drops. It's good in the menus but as soon as ffb kicks in the gpu usages drops to 50% and frames dive bomb. Running the R9 now and it's not happening. Very strange.

    • @RTAMOTORSPORTS
      @RTAMOTORSPORTS 3 місяці тому

      I wonder, have you tried it in full screen vs borderless window? Also check your power settings as I herd of issues with Xbox game bar being affected depending on the setting.

  • @hamzterix
    @hamzterix 3 місяці тому

    This looks like loads of fun. BTW, I noticed you're on engine mode 8, is there any reason? Because that's like couple seconds worth of lost time when compared to mode 1

    • @RTAMOTORSPORTS
      @RTAMOTORSPORTS 3 місяці тому

      No reason I think I may have turned one of the knobs on my wheel accidentally and switched the map.

  • @antjones2281
    @antjones2281 3 місяці тому

    Great review, I have the C5 and it's definitely carbon fiber. The wheel is way more powerful than it looks due to the design, no flex and it the 5nm is constant torque not peak , like other manufactures advertise I believe it peaks closer to 7. Definitely punched above its weight class. You should reach out to them to review the C12. I just got it and it's every thing you love about this wheel cranked to 12. Lol

    • @RTAMOTORSPORTS
      @RTAMOTORSPORTS 3 місяці тому

      I definitely have a lot of testing to do with this wheel, but I'm happy to hear your experiences have been great! The C12 looks like a beast for sure!

  • @hamzterix
    @hamzterix 3 місяці тому

    Thats great, manufacturers are reaching us now. Looking forward for the review.

    • @RTAMOTORSPORTS
      @RTAMOTORSPORTS 3 місяці тому

      Hey!! Thanks for dropping in! Very excited to get this thing running as well!

  • @CarsandCoffeys
    @CarsandCoffeys 3 місяці тому

    Good stuff Crash! I'm looking forward to seeing you test the wheel out!

    • @RTAMOTORSPORTS
      @RTAMOTORSPORTS 3 місяці тому

      Yes sir! I'm curious to get your thoughts on it as well!